In his interview with Tucker Carlson, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton mentioned how the Texas Court of Appeals (which is 100% "Republican") recently made it illegal for him to prosecute voter fraud. Paxton joins Glenn to elaborate on this ridiculous ruling and why he believes it's (of course) all tied to George Soros. Plus, Paxton pushes back against the Wall Street Journal's take on why he was acquitted in his impeachment trial and reveals whether Texas will finally start acting like Texas again after the Biden administration cut razor wire at the southern border, allowing thousands of illegal immigrants could cross over.
TranscriptBelow is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Last night, the fed -- because the federal government decided, they were just going to cut the razor wire at the border, on Texas.
At Eagle Pass. Just came in. Cut it. Cameras were rolling. There were, hmm, about four how thousand Venezuelans waiting on the other side. And 14,000 announced a state of emergency in Eagle Pass.
When is Texas going to actually become Texas?
My first or actually my second question to Ken Paxton, and we begin right now.
Ken, welcome to the program. I'm glad that this is all behind you.
It seemed to me, to be an absolute witch hunt. But I -- I wanted to ask you, one question, on this. Because I know you covered a lot of this with Tucker Carlson yesterday. But let me -- let me go into the Wall Street Journal.
Why Ken Paxton was acquitted.
It's by the entire editorial board. It's just ridiculous.
Listen to this. Mr. Paxton's defenders are spinning that he was saved by a populist national conservative groundswell to put an end to the bush era in Texas. What a joke. There is no longer a Bush era in Texas or anywhere else.
George P. Bush. Jeb Bush's son lost to Mr. Paxton. Yeah. Well, yes.
So how is that the end of Bush? What really happened on Saturday, is that Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick chose to rescue in a reboot of his rival, House Speaker Dade Phelan. The acquittal is perhaps a satisfying victory for Mr. Patrick over his House rival.
But it may not play out so well for Texas Republicans in the longer run.
A federal investigation into Mr. Paxton is continuing amid reports that a grand jury has been impaneled.
What do you know about that, Ken?
KEN: Well, first of all, I have seen people of Texas. I am here.
Because by the grace of God, and the -- those people that I just mentioned, the Biden administration, I have seen it 48 times. The Biden administration, 27 times.
This was organized by the Biden administration. And I thought, well, how could that be? It happened because in Texas, the Speaker is elected by 65 Democrats. And ten Republicans. That's all it takes.
And what the Democrats do is they block votes, they figure out which Republicans will give them the most.
And they -- they agreed to this deal with the Biden administration. Went straight to the Texas Democrats. And they came after me. And shoot, I've been investigated ever since the day I walked into this office. And I have no doubt, the Biden administration would love to find some way. They've been working on it for years.
To get rid of me. And part of that process was the impeachment.
GLENN: So I have to tell you, I think Phelan should be impeached himself. This is such a sham of everything that was going on.
But let me talk about the border here. Because, Ken, while you've been away, Texas has been a wuss in many cases.
Yesterday, the razor wire at Eagle Pass was cut. We had this gigantic colony in Houston. Which is, you, you know, they're change girls up, and raping them. One escaped. Tried to.
And was killed. Both of them ended up dead. There's all kinds of cartel activity going on.
This is a colony in Houston. The size of Washington, DC. More people are on the way. When is Texas going to become Texas?
KEN: So I literally had my first briefing yesterday from my office. We spent probably four months, and I have people that have left. There's lots of stuff that I didn't know what was going on.
I didn't get information from my office. So yesterday, I spent more time talking about immigration. And what's going on in the border. What can we do.
We're in the process of looking into potential lawsuits.
I don't have an army to do anything about it. All I can do is what I can do, of course. So we already had a bunch of lawsuits, against the Biden administration. But we're definitely looking at more.
We're trying to figure out, how can we stop this travesty, with the Biden administration, is promoting. It's pretty clear to me.
They do not care about the American people. This is so horrible. And a consequence for people on the border.
That are US citizens. And for our sake. Are devastated. And those consequences with drugs, and crime. Will be sold in this country, for a long time to come.
GLENN: So did the governor reach out you to, yesterday, about the wire cutting?
VOICE: I did not hear from his office yesterday. My staff may have. But I didn't. I didn't know about it until you just said something.
GLENN: No one from the governor's office called you about the federal government cutting the razor wire and letting thousands of people in across our border at Eagle Pass? No one called you?
KEN: I heard about that story, on -- right before your show started as I listened to the news. That's when I heard about the wire cutting. I did not know.
GLENN: Okay. The -- you said to Tucker yesterday, in your interview with him. And this kind of -- just kind of went and he didn't follow up. And I found this quite important.
The Court of Appeals and the state of Texas, apparently now, you cannot prosecute voter fraud in Texas. Is that true?
KEN: Yes. That is correct. They struck down a law from 1951. And, by the way, I have four things that I'm supposed to do in the Constitution. And the final thing is, such things that are required by law. In 1951, the legislature, directed by the attorney general, the only thing that I have jurisdiction on, as early as criminal matters is voter fraud.
And a court of criminal appeals. All Republican, by the way.
And, by the way, no one knows who they are. This is why they've been put there. And I'm convinced they're not Republicans. Because they struck down this law. And they said, I don't have the authority to go to court. As an attorney general.
Because I'm in the executive branch. That was their rationale for striking down things. Unconstitutional for the attorney general to be in court. I'm like, is that the most insane thing ever?
But they did it. And now it's up to the local DAs to prosecute. The Dallas county. The Harris County. Houston.
They won't prosecute voter fraud. Guess what, they just talked about voter fraud. And the people of Texas, need to know that. And if there's three of the nine members, coming up in March, for a primary. We have to find people to run. And we have to beat those people. Or we will lose this state.
Because I tried to get this law passed again. So I always have -- I can start doing it again, and making them strike again. And guess who killed it?
Dade Phelan. I called him. He never returned my calls. I was told by his team they didn't have time to pass this law. Even though --
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
KEN: That's where we are with Dade Phelan. That's where we are with the Texas House. And that's where we are with the Court of Criminal Appeals.
That's our highest court.
Like our Supreme Court. One of two states have this, for all criminal matters.
So I have no appeal. When they strike down and say this is unconstitutional, I can't prosecute criminal fraud, I have no way around it. I'm stuck. That's what I'm saying.
GLENN: Okay. So who needs to be called? The House?
KEN: The House needs to pass this. They lost two years. And in March, I think we're -- I just we're going to have three people running against the members of the Court of Appeals. We have to get those people elected, because we lost eight-one. And if we have three new members, we'll at least be 5-4. And we'll be sending a message, we cannot strike down --
GLENN: Okay. Who are the three members?
KEN: I do not have it on me. Yeah. Three members will be up this time. I think one of them is Michelle (inaudible). I think Barbara Kirby. And I'm trying to remember the third one. I think those are the three that are up.
GLENN: We'll find it.
KEN: Glenn, I don't think there's any more important issue than fixing this court.
GLENN: Why did this happen? How did this happen?
KEN: Okay. So I think George Soros, my opinion, he was trying to do three things.
One, get the DA -- he beat all these Democratic DAs that were prosecuting crimes. He did it in Travis County. The Democrat County there, was actually prosecuted.
He did the same thing in San Antonio.
So he got control of that, knowing full well that this would affect voting.
Second, he put -- he helped put nine members on the Supreme Court. Actually eight. Kevin is awesome.
The other -- eight.
No one knows who they are. And I think he -- because Republicans don't know who these people are. He was able to get the numbers to court. And strike down this law. And then the third strategy -- and then there's nowhere to go.
So that was the goal. They didn't hear it from me. So there's still hope. We have to get the criminal court of appeals. We have to get the House next time to pass this law.
GLENN: You know, Donald Trump said, yesterday, let me see if I can actually quote him on -- on something. He said yesterday, that we -- if there is a defeat in 2024, it will mean the end of the country. The 2024 presidential election will mean nothing less than the final battle for the US. I am beginning to think that's absolutely true. If we make it to 2024.
KEN: I told him, when he was running for reelection in May, that I was fighting a battle to stop massive bailout ballots. In all the biggest counties.
Travis County. Then Harris County, to Houston. We have 12 lawsuits. If I don't win every single one of those lawsuits, you'll lose Texas. He said, what? That's not possible. I said, it doesn't matter what your polling says. If they can cut out six or seven million ballots for just one count. Say Harris County sends $2.5 million out.
You won by 600,000 votes, you won't win votes. They will count votes.
Because we can't verify. If they mail them out to everyone. There's no signature verification. Which is still not even the best way to make sure people are voting right.
We have no way to verify. They will count as many ballots as they want. They will figure out how their numbers are. And guess what, we thought every one of those lawsuits, even though this is a terrible place. Terrible judges. I watched election night.
I said, this is exactly -- they will stop counting votes for a couple of days. So they can figure out, how many votes they needed to count with these mail-in ballots.
And that's exactly what happened in these other states.
Whenever I bring it up, they say I'm crazy. That's exactly what they did.
GLENN: You know, one thing I really worry about is the number of illegals, in you're country. The ones we don't even know about. We already, since Biden got into office. We have already passed the population of 15 different states. Combinations of three states. Would equal the amount that has come in.
It is -- it's -- you're seeing crime and everything else.
And we're only seeing the surface of this.
I -- I wonder if Texas can stand. How much is this changing?
If they can just register, or -- or get people to get in here to do voting. Which is their plan? Beyond that, the crime, the social services. The hospitals.
I -- I -- we're so close to the border. If we don't get this border sealed, we're done.
KEN: No, this is the plan.
People are like, why did Biden do this?
One, first, voting. Getting as many people, in the Republican states, that they can come.
Voters, whether it's legal or illegal. Right now, they can vote illegally.
No one is going to do anything about it. It won't matter.
Second, they wanted to get as many illegals into these Republican states.
Guess what, we're doing better than Democratic states.
We have low taxes, less regulation.
More opportunity.
Better governance.
And they want to bring in more problems.
They want to take us down, because the story is too good for Texas, Florida, and Tennessee, Utah. The Republican states were successful.
The Democrat states are losing people.
Because people are voting with their feet. The Biden administration said, okay. We'll make you pay for it. We'll make you pay for all the schooling, health care, law enforcement, crime.
Your kids are going to die. We will get you, and that's what the Biden administration is all about.
GLENN: Well, any good news to report?
KEN: Yeah. There's always help.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I have to tell you, it looked like they were going to be able to railroad you.
And, look, I know you're not a perfect person.
But, you know, I had a real problem, when they came to the impeachment hearings after promising, just like the Democrats. All kinds of evidence. All kinds of -- and then literally nothing.
KEN: Their lawyers, Glenn, said it will be ten times worse than the public.
Guess what, it's ten times less.
They tried to railroad me out. No testimony that's required by law.
No due process. No chance for me to refute any of this stuff.
All done secretly. No transparency done in three days. Some other things. Now, I have no resources.
I spent all my money on a campaign.
I have no -- I had no lawyers.
I had three months to figure out what they had.
And they kept hiding information, even though they were requiring the turnover. And then, of course, I had the gag orders. I couldn't defend myself. I couldn't go out and talk, couldn't call you.
On the other hand, they were able to leak information to the press. Every day, I've been impounded. All of that, was against me.
And yet, because of the people in Texas, because of my strong family support, because of my wife's support. And because of the grace of God. You know, I just decided, I'm going to fight this to the last second.
I will not resign. Because if they win this. Because they can just do this to anybody they want. I will not let the voters down.
GLENN: So who will pay for this?
Is any -- is any investigation -- I don't want revenge.
I want this to not be able to happen again.
KEN: No. So Dan Patrick, God bless him for this. He called for an audit. Which I think was fair. They were trying to figure out how much money they were spending. I think we will find out how much money they spent. Which is millions.
And look, it's totally unfair to push someone out of office, with no proof.
And I have to pay for it.
And I have to lose, just because they have all the money for the taxpayers. And I'm left with just nothing.
Most people would not have made it through that. With no resources.
And that is unfair to the House bill, is that suspended with no proof. And then take away one -- illegally cuts my salary off to punish me.
Even though he had no authority to do that.
And I'm supposed to survive this.they did everything they could to make it impossible for me to get the truth out, and to survive.
GLENN: This is so weird.
KEN: Again, against the will of the voters.
GLENN: We are becoming an old Soviet state. It's terrifying.
KEN: This is Texas, Glenn. Texas.
GLENN: Oh, I know. I know. Ken, thank you very much. I appreciate it. God bless. Thank you.